Cards Against Humanity/ Why are you laughing?
This is kind of off-topic (if my blog has a topic?), but I don’t like Cards Against Humanity.
I like it in theory. When I see pictures of some pairings (“Kid tested, Mother approved”/ “Oedipus Complex”), I can see the value in having an Apples-to-Apples type game that uses more complex/topical information.
But in actual practice, the game mostly makes me feel really uncomfortable. Part of it, I’m sure, is because some of the topics featured on the cards are really offensive.
And I’ve had people tell me, “Well, people customize their decks by removing the things that are triggering or upsetting for them,” but what about for other people?
The first time I played, there was a round where the winning combination was [something]/”A mime having a stroke.”
My aunt had a stroke six weeks before this game.
She was in a coma for a month. She was just starting rehab when this card was played.
Seven months later, she can still barely talk. She can’t walk or get dressed without assistance.
She was a college professor.
I didn’t think that card was funny.
It actively hurt me to be sitting there with all these people laughing at the hilarity of a stroke.
But it was all in good fun. I couldn’t say anything. It’s “the party game for horrible people.”
What did I expect.
Then there’s the pressure of it all. Maybe it was just the people I was playing with, but my understanding was that whoever the “judge” is is supposed to pick the winner.
But every time it was my turn, if I picked the thing I liked the best, people would say, “BUT THIS OTHER COMBINATION WAS THE OBVIOUS FRONTRUNNER! THIS CLEARLY SHOULD HAVE WON!”
And what do you say to that?
"I’m sorry, that combination makes me uncomfortable and I didn’t like it."
"I’m sorry, I thought it was my turn to pick?"
"Two of my relatives have had strokes this year. One of them is dead."?
And those kinds of situations always make me wonder, why are you laughing? Sometimes, laughter is a defense mechanism. You laugh because you’re uncomfortable and the only alternative is to be upset. You laugh because you don’t know how to respond.
And I told myself, “They’re laughing because it’s absurd; they’re laughing because it’s unexpected; they don’t actually think someone having a stroke is funny. They don’t they don’t they don’t.”
But, no, I had people reassuring me that they were, in fact, laughing because they thought it was funny.
And I didn’t like it. I didn’t like the people my friends became when they were playing this game.
This game had the opposite effect of a party game — it made me feel excluded, upset, physically nauseous, agitated.
And the thing is, I have a sense of humor.
I’m not anti-fun, anti-irony, anti-dark humor.
I would love to play an apples-to-apples type game that featured more adult/topical/mature content.
You could even include medical diagnoses and disorders and things. I don’t care.
But why would you make a card that’s “[specific type of person] having a stroke”? Does a stroke suddenly become funny because it’s being suffered by a street performer? Are debilitating medical phenomena hilarious when they happen to people you don’t know or who aren’t like you?
To me, that’s cheap. It’s not funny. You’re capitalizing on a non-sequitur (strokes are not something most people associate with pantomime), and it’s the disconnect that makes people laugh.
(But then you have people who laugh and assume it’s because it’s funny: that if something makes you laugh for any reason, then it’s funny. And so the thing that gets the most laughter is the funniest.
Which I disagree with. Obviously.)
And that seems like it’s the entire “game” of Cards Against Humanity.
Even if you make a clever and interesting connection, if there’s something more jarring, more offensive, more incongruous, then that takes the prize.
Alright, a random dude (friend-of-a-friend situation) has been messaging me on facebook for chat purposes, and I’m not saying it’s flirtatious, but I’m always wary of guys who decide out of nowhere that they’d like to chat.
I want to see something where Hades isn’t depicted as a complete chode. Cause, he isn’t supposed to be. Of all the old Greek gods, he was relatively nice. He didn’t rape anyone (the ‘Rape of Persephone’ uses ‘rape’ in the old sense, which was…
You have fair points. I was just saying in the historical context, it makes little sense, and you can’t blame Christianity necessarily for Hades being conflated with Satan and evil in general. It’s more a slow development of misconceptions. Even the pagan Hellenes looked down on Hades, except the Orphic cult (since they worshiped him as their chief deity). You have to look at it in a broad context of how it occurred over time.
It doesn’t make it right. Hades deserves a bit more respect. Satan is a fucking prick. Hades is just kind of a jerk. Though he at least had an excuse according to a lot of Hellenic myths. And he could be a good guy if he needed. Which just goes back to my original post. There should be a kind depiction of Hades. He isn’t a good guy, or anti-hero. He’s a kind of psycho. He’s just, you know, not actually evil in a moral sense. Just damaged as fuck. And understandably so if you know the whole background for him.
I may have mistakenly assumed your original post was referring to Hades’ depiction in contemporary culture, when you were really referring to mythology as a whole, in which case my annoyance about his conflation with Satan would be off topic (and, as you say, historically inaccurate), for which I apologize.
I am not at all disagreeing with your original post. I completely agree that there need to be more sympathetic (or at least nuanced) portrayals of Hades.
I just assumed we were talking about depictions in contemporary culture, and my angst about Clash of the Titans seemed relevant (it wasn’t. I’m sorry).
I was never trying to argue that there is a strong correlation between Hades and Satan, or that such a correlation is right. But I don’t know how else to rationalize some of the ways Hades is depicted in modern media besides to say that the creators may have been (intentionally or unintentionally) drawing on their Christian upbringing. It’s something that frustrates me.
I want to see something where Hades isn’t depicted as a complete chode. Cause, he isn’t supposed to be. Of all the old Greek gods, he was relatively nice. He didn’t rape anyone (the ‘Rape of Persephone’ uses ‘rape’ in the old sense, which was more kidnapping),…
Actually, in Judeo-Christian thought, at least traditionally, Death, as in, the actual angel of death, wasn’t considered a bad guy. The concept of death was supposed to be destroyed during the Armageddon, but the Devil (big D there) was supposed to originally be the angel of death, but after the fall of the devils, that is, the angels who rebelled against Yahweh, the angel of death was a secondary who took the same name, who’s actually supposed to be kind and just makes sure people die when they’re supposed to, where as his predecessor was kind of a trickster who tried to fuck people over and thought he was so cool he should be God, particularly because he was the second in command.
Early Greek Christians did refer to dying as Hades, but it’s more a conflation of previous beliefs. It wasn’t Hell, necessarily. It was just a nebulous concept of where everyone went when dead. The deity, Hades, was actually pretty much ignored. Satan in early Greek-Christian belief was conflated actually with Apollo, hence calling him Apollyon and a number of similar names.
The development of mythology over time is very interesting, but I don’t think Satan’s early association with Apollo (Lucifer as Sun God?) has much affect on how Satan is characterized in modern popular culture.
In much the same way, the mythological history of Death and the reality of Hades’ role in ancient greek religion aren’t supremely relevant to how casual consumers of mythology-based/inspired media understand his character.
I was referring more to the generic conflation of “Satan is God’s enemy” with “Hades is Zeus’ enemy,” based on the correlation between Satan and Hades having dominion over underworlds and God and Zeus both being “kings of heaven.”
Obviously, this is a vastly oversimplified interpretation of all parties involved, but I can’t imagine how else the Clash of the Titans crew came to the conclusion that Hades was the best man to unleash the Kraken (which I clearly have a lot of hang-ups about).
Of course, to see media that was interested in depicting a thorough and nuanced understanding of mythology (rather than just settling for “read an actual myth,” which is pretty much where I’m at) would be phenomenal.
I want to see something where Hades isn’t depicted as a complete chode. Cause, he isn’t supposed to be. Of all the old Greek gods, he was relatively nice. He didn’t rape anyone (the ‘Rape of Persephone’ uses ‘rape’ in the old sense, which was more kidnapping), he didn’t senselessly kill people for pissing him off, or subject them to awful torments. He actually loved Persephone, and wept for Orpheus’s music about his wife. Don’t get me wrong, he was still kind of a shithead, but not so much as the other ones. You got to pick a god from that pantheon that was the least an asshole, Hades is the frontrunner.
I would honestly love to see Zeus in the traditional “villain” role, and to a lesser extent Poseidon. or maybe one of the demigods, like Jason or Theseus.
The only reason to cast Hades as the villain as often as they do is because of a presumed enmity between the god of the dead and everyone else (which I usually blame on the Judeo-Christian God/Satan dynamic).
And they do this even when it makes literally no sense.
Like, in Disney’s Hercules, I can understand not wanting to get into the “Zeus’ wife trying to kill his mistress’ bastard” aspects of the story. It’s a lot for kids to handle, and creating a “Brotherly Rivalry/Succession” alternative is a pretty tidy solution.
But I caught the end of the remake of Clash of the Titans, and they had Hades sending a Kraken to eat Andromeda, and it made the least sense.
WHY WOULD HADES BE SENDING A KRAKEN? DOES HADES HAVE DOMINION OVER THE SEA?
THE GOD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS POSEIDON.
Post-Grad Social Problems #1
Thinking your friends hate you because you haven’t heard from them in a few weeks, then realizing it’s because it’s the end of the semester and all their shit is due
Haiku about Intent
I just want to write
Something that makes people say
"I want to be friends"
Haiku about Science
What do you call it
When a male seahorse gives birth?
That is misandry.
Haiku about Haikus
What is a haiku?
It’s seventeen syllables
For a whole story.
Haiku about Being Literally on Fire
I have Charmander
Sitting on top of my head
Please call 9-1-1
Trying to Buy Shoes: An Exercize in Futility
*Go to shoe department with my mom*
*Make bee-line for the shoes I picked out from the catalog*
*Pick one up*
Sales Associate: “How are you ladies doing tonight?”
Us: “We’re fi—”
*Sales associate walks away*
*Mom and I look at one another*
*Sales associate is standing by shoe display 10 feet away, his back to us, staring into space*
Me: “Excuse me, I’d like to try this on.”
Sales Associate: “What size?”
Me: “8, please”
*Sales associate goes to store room*
*Sales associate comes back*
*Sales associate hands me box*
*Sales associate resumes position standing 10 feet away with his back to us staring into space*
*I put on shoes*
Mom: How do they fit?
Me: I think they’re a bit big.
Mom: Do you want to try another size?
Me: Yeah, I think so.
*Sales associate continues staring into space with his back to us 10 feet away*
Me: “Excuse me, I’d like to try these on in another size.”
SA: “What size?”
Me: “7 1/2, please.”
*Sales associate goes to store room.”
"Sales associate comes back with nothing."
SA: “We don’t have those shoes in that size.”
Me: “You don’t have them in that size in any color?”
SA: “We don’t have them in that size in black.”
I did not ask for black. The display shoe was black. It says in the catalog that they come in three color options.
Me: “I’d like to try them on in another color.”
*SA disappears into store room*
*I’m super mad because I know this shoe comes in at least three colors and this dude never once asked me what color I wanted, or otherwise made any effort whatsoever to help me buy shoes, even though there was literally no one else there when I got there.*
*SA comes back with a box*
SA: “We don’t have them in that material, but we have them in [this other material that has a completely different look and feel and fits differently] if you want to try that”
*SA goes back to his favorite past-time*
*I try on the shoe. It fucking sucks.*
TL;DR - IT IS YOUR JOB TO SELL ME SHOES. I WANT TO BUY SHOES. IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE SHOES I WANT, ASK ME WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THEM, ASK ME IF I’D CONSIDER SOMETHING DIFFERENT. EVEN IF I DON’T LEAVE WITH SHOES, YOU CAN STILL HAVE BEEN HELPFUL.
OH, AND TELL ME IF YOU ONLY HAVE LIMITED STOCK OF PERMANENT COLLECTION ITEMS BECAUSE YOU HAD TO MAKE ROOM FOR WINTER STOCK. OTHERWISE I WILL ASSUME YOUR FAILURE TO ASK ME WHAT COLOR I WANT (OR EVEN TO INFORM ME THERE ARE COLOR OPTIONS) IS A RESULT OF THE APATHY THAT’S APPARENTLY PART OF YOUR CHARACTER, RATHER THAN ATTRIBUTING IT TO EVENTS BEYOND YOUR CONTROL.
tl;dr;dra - customer service workers who suck at customer service are the worst and i don’t like them
When I go to the New Age section of Barnes and Noble, my mind runs away from me.